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crystalclear
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 Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: Maulidin Nabi at CIC tomorrow Night |
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Assalamualaikum
Dont forget to join us tomorrow for dinner at 6 followed by Magrib prayer and short talk and also inter-activities for kids on the first floor. Bring along your family and friends, InshaAllah.
Admin dont forget to bring your camera and take a good shots of everyone  or else Nemo going to get upset. 
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Assalaamu 'alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,
For those who missed out on tonight's Blessed gathering, inshaAllah we will have a snipet of it uploaded on www.futuwwah.podomatic.com shortly.
Fi Amanillah
Wassalaamu 'alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh
Abu Khadijah ibn 'Umar
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| Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:35 am Post subject: Mawlid Fatawa - and some historical facts to consider |
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Assalaamu 'alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,
For those who every year receive emails telling them that Mawlid is an 'innovation', and something 'forbidden', they must consider that in fiqh, when the 'ulama differ on an issue, then it is not right for anyone to claim that the people who choose to follow the other opinion is truly incorrect - because of the maxim which the Fuqaha use - namely:
| Quote: | | "Our view is correct with the possibility of it being incorrect, and their view is incorrect with the possibility of it being correct" |
Also, the concept of 'bid'ah' itself must be understood properly - and for that - one must delve deep inside the concept of bid'ah, it's lexical meaning, and it's application meaning, as there are many terms, many verses etc even in the Qur'an, which if taken literally, will not make sense, likewise, the 'ulama 'amilun have explained the concept of what a bid'ah (innovation) means. More on this topic if required.
There is absolutely no compulsion to celebrate Milad un Nabiy - as it is not some Fard or Wajib or Sunnah that we are doing, but it is as the scholars such as Ibn Hajar al Haythami, Imam Suyuti, and others from the past, along with contemporaries of today like Imam Yusuf al Qaradawi and others stress is a time to celebrate the birth of Islam, to inculcate in our youth the love for Rasulullah sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam, and to draw nearer to the beloved of Allah subhaanahu wa ta'ala. All while staying away from the prohibitions, muharramaat, the innovations and the like.
So what follows is a brief fatawa answered by Sheikh Qaradawi and Sheikh `Atiyyah Saqr. There are many fatawa also from Saudi Arabia which mention that it is not permissible, and we respect the 'sheikhs' fatawa's, however, many of the great Islamic scholars have allowed the remembrance of the beloved, and they have given their daleel (proofs) on the issue, and as such, with all due respect to the fatawah's from Saudi, we prefer to follow the fatawa from the rest of the 'ulama on this issue (not to be difficult, but to earn hasanat and not to miss out). If such a gathering means that families and many others are brought to the Masajid's of Allah subhanahau wa ta'ala, then those who initiate such a good act, would naturally also be rewarded inshaAllah..
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Question - Sabri - Panama
| Quote: | | As Salamu `alaykum. Does celebrating the birthday of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) have any evidence from the Qur'an and Sunnah? www.Sunnidawateisla mi.Com has answered that question in their question-answer column saying that it is allowed to celebrate the Prophet's birthday, the Qur`an has approved it and there is evidence from it in the Sunnah. When I discuss this matter with my family, I tell them it is bid`ah or an innovation. Am I right? I'd like you to please clarify this matter to me. I'd also like to know the correct date of birth of our Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), and the date he died. |
Answered by Sheikhs: Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, `Atiyyah Saqr
Wa`alykum As-salaamu wa Rahmatul Allahi wa Barakaatuh.
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
All praise and thanks are due to Allah , and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.
Dear questioner, first of all, we'd like to voice our appreciation for the great confidence you repose in us. Our utmost wish is to have our efforts come up to your expectation. May Allah help us all keep firm on the straight path, Amen!
It is permissible to celebrate the Prophet's birthday as an expression of love to the Prophet provided that the celebration doesn’t involve any of the prohibited acts.
In this regard, we would like to cite for you the following fatwa issued by Sheikh `Atiyyah Saqr, former head of Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, in which he states the following:
According to historians, the Fatimides were the first to celebrate the Prophet's birthday. Qalqashandi, in his book Subh Al-A`sha, says that the Fatimides used to make a huge celebration in Egypt and distribute large amounts of sweets for the occasion. Actually, the Fatimides used to celebrate the birthdays of other members of the Prophet's family and they also celebrated Christ's birthday.
However, all of these celebrations were stopped in 488 upon an order from Caliph Al-Musta`li billah appointed as prime minister Al-Afdal Shahindah, son of Commander-in- chief Badr Al-Jamali, a powerful man who conformed to the Sunnah as stated by Ibn Al-Atheer in his book Al-Kamel, volume 8, page 302.
People stopped celebrating such occasions till Al-Ma'mun Al-Bata'ihi came to power and issued an official decree in 517 enjoining the distribution of alms in 12th Rabee` Al-Awwal. Sanaa' Al-Malik was in charge of distributing them.
When the Ayoubides came to power, they stopped all Fatimide practices, but families used to celebrate the Prophet's birthday in their houses. Then it returned to be officially celebrated at the beginning of the seventh century in the city of Irbil upon a decree from its prince, Muzafar Al-Deen Abi Sa`d Kawakbri Ibn Zein Ed-Deen `Ali- Ibn Tabakatikin, who was a Sunni.
Muzafar gave great care and attention to such celebrations and ordered marquis to be erected starting from the beginning of Safar. Such tents, which were wonderfully decorated and extended from Al-Qal`a gate till the Khandaq gate. Muzafar used to go everyday after `Asr prayer to watch the festivities in these tents.
The celebration was sometimes held on the 8th of Rabee` Al-Awwal (and sometimes on the 12th) which used to be an official holiday so that the people could enjoy the festival. Two days before the actual celebration, Muzafar used to order the sheep, cows and camels to be slaughtered in the main avenue amidst cheerful festivities, then the meat would be cooked and distributed among the people.
Ibn Al-Hajj Abu `Abdullah Al-`Abdari says that such festivals were widespread in Egypt during his rein and condemned the innovations that used to take place during such festivals. (Al-Madkhal, volume 2, p 11, 12)
Many books were written on the Prophet's birthday in the seventh century such as the stories of Ibn Dahya, who died in Egypt in 633 AH, Muhy Ed-Deen Ibn Al-`Arabi, who died in Damascus in 683 AH, Ibn Taghrabik, who died in Egypt in 670 AH; and Ahmad Al-`Azli and his son Muhammad, who died in Sabata in 670 AH.
Due to the spread of innovation during such celebrations, scholars have denounced them and stated that they were groundless. Among those scholars is the Maliki jurist Taaj Ad-Deen `Umar Ibn Al-Lakhmi Al-Sakandari known as Al-Fakahani, who died in 731 AH; he wrote his thesis Al-Mawrid fil Kalam `Ala-Mawlid on this issue and As-Suyuti quotes it in his book Husn Al-Maqsid.
Sheikh Muhammad Fadl `Ashur says that in the ninth century, scholars were divided over the issue. Some said it was permissible, others said it was not and it was recommended by As-Suyuti, Ibn Hajar Al-`Asqalani and Ibn Hajar Al-Haythmi, yet they condemned the innovations that took place during such festivities. Their opinion was derived from the verse: (And remind them of the days of Allah) (Ibrahim 14: 5).
Explaining the previous verse, An-Nasa`i and `Abdullah Ibn Ahmad report in Zaway’d Al-Musnad and Al-Bayhaqi in Shu'ab Al-Iman reports on the authority of Ibn Ka`b that he said that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), said: 'The days of Allah' are Allah's Blessings and Signs, and the Prophet's birth is a great bliss." (Al-Alusi's Ruh Al-Ma`ani)
Muslim reports on the authority of Qatadah Al-Ansari that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), was asked about fasting on Monday and he replied: "It is the day on which I was born and on which I received the Divine Revelation". It is also reported on the authority of Ibn `Abbas and Ibn Jabir that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was born in the "year of the elephant" on the 12th of Rabee` Al-Awwal. He also received the Divine Revelation, ascended to the Heavens, migrated to Madinah and died on the 12th of Rabee` Al-Awwal.
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), says that the day he was born was a special day. Since it is well known from the Shari`ah that Muslims should seize the opportunity in blessed days and do good deeds, Muslims should celebrate the Prophet's birthday so as to thank Allah for guiding them to Islam through Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).
Therefore, celebrating the Prophet's birthday is permissible provided that it does not include committing any of the prohibited things. As for throwing banquets, this comes under the verse saying: (O ye who believe! Eat of the good things wherewith We have provided you, and render thanks to Allah if it is (indeed) He whom ye worship.þ) (Al-Baqarah 2: 172)
My opinion is that celebrating such a religious occasion is recommended especially nowadays for youth have become forgetful of these religious occasions and their significance because they have indulged in other celebrations.
Celebrating such a great event should be done through reading more about the Prophet's Sunnah and life, building mosques, religious institutes and doing other forms of charity work that remind people of the Prophet's life and his struggle.
Therefore, it is permissible to celebrate the Prophet's birthday as an expression of our love to him and our endeavor to follow him as an example provided that these celebrations do not involve any of the prohibited things. Some prohibited things are improper intermingling between men and women, behaving improperly at mosques and partaking in innovations such as worshiping at tombs and other things that violate the teachings of Islam. If such previously mentioned violations surpass the religious benefit realized from these celebrations, then they should be stopped in order to prevent harm and wrongdoing as indicated in the Shari`ah.
Moreover, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, adds:
We all know that the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did not celebrate the Prophet's birthday, Hijrah or the Battle of Badr, because they witnessed such events during the lifetime of the Prophet who always remained in their hearts and minds.
Sa`d Ibn Abi Waqqas said that they were keen on telling their children the stories of the Prophet's battles just as they were keen on teaching them the Qur'an. Therefore, they used to remind their children of what happened during the Prophet's lifetime so they did not need to hold such celebrations. However, the following generations began to forget such a glorious history and its significance. So such celebrations were held as a means of reviving great events and the values that we can learn from them.
Unfortunately, such celebrations include some innovations when they should actually be made to remind people of the Prophet's life and his call. Actually, celebrating the Prophet's birthday means celebrating the birth of Islam. Such an occasion is meant to remind people of how the Prophet lived.
Allah Almighty says: (Verily in the Messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the last Day, and remembereth Allah much.) (Al-Ahzab 33: 21)
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By celebrating the Prophet's Hijrah, we should teach people values such as sacrifice, the sacrifice of the Companions, the sacrifice of `Ali who slept in the Prophet's place on the night of the Hijrah, the sacrifice of Asma' as she ascended the Mountain of Thawr. We should teach them to plan the way the Prophet planned for his Hijrah, and how to trust in Allah as the Prophet did when Abu Bakr told him: We could be seen so easily, the Prophet replied saying: "O Abu Bakr! What do you think of two when Allah is their third?" (Have no fear, for Allah is with us.) (At-Tawbah 9: 40)
We need all these lessons and such celebrations are a revival of these lessons and values. I think that these celebrations, if done in the proper way, will serve a great purpose, getting Muslims closer to the teachings of Islam and to the Prophet's Sunnah and life.
As for celebrating `Ashura’, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), celebrated this day by fasting only. He asked the Jews why they fasted on that day and they told him that it was the day that Allah saved Moses and the people of Israel. The Prophet replied saying: "We have more of a right to Moses than you." So he fasted on that day and ordered the people to fast on that day. He also said near the end of his life: "By Allah, if I lived longer I would fast on the 9th of Muharram." That is, that he would fast on the 9th and the 10th in order to be different from the Jews who fast on the 10th only. However, some of the Sunnis celebrate `Ashura as if it were a feast. The Shi`ah consider it a day of sadness and mourning, but all such things are innovations and are completely un-Islamic.
As for the second part of the question, the exact date of the Prophet's birth is controversial, but it is most likely to be on Monday, 9th Rabee` Al-Awwal (20th or 22nd of April, 571 AC), the same year in which the invasion of the Elephants took place against the Ka`bah. And he (peace and blessings be upon him) passed away on Monday 12, Rabee` Al-Awwal in the eleventh year of Hijrah (8 June 632 AC.)
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Assalamualaikum
Just to let you guys know that you brothers were awesome that night. I didnt know there is a hidden talent among you guys. MashaAllah the nasheed, the burdah it was so beautiful, did anyone record it? R we able to listen to this again on the podmatic  Ive heard you've been practising all week, MashaAllah. May Allah (swt) reward you with jannatul firdaus InshaAllah. Hoping to hear more InshaAllah in future events  It makes me laugh when Ustadh rated your singing as 9 out of 10 or was it less
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Assalaamu 'alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,
Alhamdulillah - may Allah accept the deeds that were done that night as it was a blessed occassion.
The brothers only practised twice/three times over 3-4 hours all up - so there were alot of out of sync moments, but Alhamdulillah, being in the Masjid of Allah subhaanahu wa ta'ala, and remembering the beloved must have definately made the brothers perform better than what they would normally.
Ustadh mentioned 9.5 out of 10, which is I guess good enough to get into a Medical course interview at uni 
InshaAllah the recording will be placed online - as soon as it is 'edited' - there are some delays in it.
Camp will also see the brothers perform nightly inshaAllah (not guaranteed as yet).
That said, any ideas for a nasheed group name? All ideas are welcome inshaAllah as a nasheed group will inshaAllah be formed - so brothers who wish to sing the Praises of their Lord, without show, please step forward and contact us - as we would like to hear from you - and more so from your hearts love for Islam and all that it holds dear.
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[quote="admin"]Assalaamu 'alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,
Camp will also see the brothers perform nightly inshaAllah (not guaranteed as yet).
That said, any ideas for a nasheed group name? All ideas are welcome inshaAllah as a nasheed group will inshaAllah be formed - so brothers who wish to sing the Praises of their Lord, without show, please step forward and contact us - as we would like to hear from you - and more so from your hearts love for Islam and all that it holds dear.
Fi Amanillah[/quote
Assalamualaikum
Ooh cant wait for camp, you guys better start practising again better be performing at camp coz Ustadh said there will be nasheeds for the night programme.
For a name, how about ymafutuwwah brotherhood, cant think of anything now, InshaAllah will come up with some soon
May Allah reward you brothers. Next time would be nice with daf or nay. Im sure MG will be kind enough to help out. Oh speaking of which Ive forgot to specially mention jazakallah to MG and his wife and family and team for working so hard with the kids programme that night, the kids enjoyed the games and activities and the food so much. May Allah reward them with the highest level of Jannah InshaAllah. And also the team of workers and CIC chef and the Nila chef for volunteering their time and efforts for the delicious food MashaAllah. May Allah grant them with the food and drinks of Jannatul Firdaus InshaAllah.
The guest were very happy that night except that Ustadh talks too long in English and some Turkish elders who dont understand Eng feel alittle bit left out. Anyway Im sure they know about the story of the birth of our beloved (saw)
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: |
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Assalamu alaikum
was a really good night Alhamdulillah filled with many memorable moments. May Allah reward those who attended and those ppl who helped organise it all, Ameen.
yeh i guess i can see were the elders are comming from, but you cant please everyone.
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